Drat, I can't set up 007
Jan. 10th, 2009 12:10 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
feng_shui_houseI hate how they now force you to do things step by step, even when you CAN'T. Used to be you could set up the computer first and then later hook it to the internet. Now before it does anything else, it wants me to plug it into the Net and set it up.
Before I even turn it on, I'm supposed to hook it to the net. I have one modem hooked directly to the desktop computer, which uses its built-in ethernet to connect to the net. So I shut the desktop and put the connection to the laptop. Which asks me what language I'm using, and then gives me an ANNOYING several minute flippin' useless long display of twinkly music and boom-chicka noises and stupid stars and the word Welcome in assorted languages (with no hint how long this is going to last, about the time I begin to think it's stuck in a loop it proudly shows me the giant X of system 10, and then starts asking set up questions, what country, what keyboard set up, and then'would you like to import from another Mac'...oh, I WISH, but I can't because I don't have a firewire cable to connect them. So I say 'no' and it asks me what type of connection I've got. I dunno. I figure I'll go with the default one, and I try to go on, but it says I'm not connected and I can't go much further on. So I go back and turn on the other computer, thinking I'll look in the preferences and get the information- but without being hooked up the desktop computer won't even give me the IP address. So I turn off 007 and turn off the desktop, rehook the desktop to the modem and turn it back on. I get the IP address, but still don't know which method of connection my ISP uses (I have a choice of DHCP, BootP, PPP, and DHCP with manual address, all of which is totally meaningless to me.)
I turn the laptop back on, with the net connection still on the desktop, and this time when it gets through the stupid stars it pauses for a while, trying to figure out how to go on & when I tell it I don't want to transfer information from another mac, it thinks for several minutes, then goes to a different question zone, asking what wireless network to join but there are no networks, it couldn't find any, so I click Different Network setup, and have the local network (Ethernet) option and again it asks for the method of connection...
I am sorry now that I've already thrown out the craptop because it probably had that information in its guts- at least it had been able to hook up to the internet. At the time I set it up, it got that information from the wireless router which I had hooked up so Ken could use my connection. I gave him the router when he left, but it wouldn't have helped if I still had it I bet, because Mac did some STUPID crap more than a year ago when they did an system update which STOPPED the computer from being able to use any wireless connection.
Soo... I can call Mac and be billed per minute for no help at all, or I can wait until Monday and call Comcast (ISP) for several hours of free talk with Hindus who never have any useful information at all about the connection, much less Macs, or I can wait until Monday and call PC Connection and try to find out if I buy a firewire cable from them to connect the two computers & leave the desktop on the connection, will it be able to transfer the needed information to the laptop even though the laptop can't be connected to the internet at the time - or can I transfer the information while the desktop is connected to the internet and then move the firewire cable to the laptop and connect it to continue the registration without damaging either computer? The laptop has a different ethernet number, of course, but will it have the same IP?
ARGGH... I do have one choice I see... I could select My Computer Does Not Connect to the Internet... but then would I be able to set it up later?
ARRRGGGH. I have a headache.
******later********
Well, I looked at the main menu on the desktop mac. Under 'Go', under 'Utilities', under 'System', under 'Profiler', under 'Network', under 'Locations', I found 'Built in Ethernet' which has a ton of numbers for various things. It says the configuration method is DHCP, which was the default on the laptop. I may try again tomorrow and see if I have the option of manually putting in these numbers (and hope I can figure out which of them are specific to the computer rather than the ISP & how to find the numbers that belong to 007).
Before I even turn it on, I'm supposed to hook it to the net. I have one modem hooked directly to the desktop computer, which uses its built-in ethernet to connect to the net. So I shut the desktop and put the connection to the laptop. Which asks me what language I'm using, and then gives me an ANNOYING several minute flippin' useless long display of twinkly music and boom-chicka noises and stupid stars and the word Welcome in assorted languages (with no hint how long this is going to last, about the time I begin to think it's stuck in a loop it proudly shows me the giant X of system 10, and then starts asking set up questions, what country, what keyboard set up, and then'would you like to import from another Mac'...oh, I WISH, but I can't because I don't have a firewire cable to connect them. So I say 'no' and it asks me what type of connection I've got. I dunno. I figure I'll go with the default one, and I try to go on, but it says I'm not connected and I can't go much further on. So I go back and turn on the other computer, thinking I'll look in the preferences and get the information- but without being hooked up the desktop computer won't even give me the IP address. So I turn off 007 and turn off the desktop, rehook the desktop to the modem and turn it back on. I get the IP address, but still don't know which method of connection my ISP uses (I have a choice of DHCP, BootP, PPP, and DHCP with manual address, all of which is totally meaningless to me.)
I turn the laptop back on, with the net connection still on the desktop, and this time when it gets through the stupid stars it pauses for a while, trying to figure out how to go on & when I tell it I don't want to transfer information from another mac, it thinks for several minutes, then goes to a different question zone, asking what wireless network to join but there are no networks, it couldn't find any, so I click Different Network setup, and have the local network (Ethernet) option and again it asks for the method of connection...
I am sorry now that I've already thrown out the craptop because it probably had that information in its guts- at least it had been able to hook up to the internet. At the time I set it up, it got that information from the wireless router which I had hooked up so Ken could use my connection. I gave him the router when he left, but it wouldn't have helped if I still had it I bet, because Mac did some STUPID crap more than a year ago when they did an system update which STOPPED the computer from being able to use any wireless connection.
Soo... I can call Mac and be billed per minute for no help at all, or I can wait until Monday and call Comcast (ISP) for several hours of free talk with Hindus who never have any useful information at all about the connection, much less Macs, or I can wait until Monday and call PC Connection and try to find out if I buy a firewire cable from them to connect the two computers & leave the desktop on the connection, will it be able to transfer the needed information to the laptop even though the laptop can't be connected to the internet at the time - or can I transfer the information while the desktop is connected to the internet and then move the firewire cable to the laptop and connect it to continue the registration without damaging either computer? The laptop has a different ethernet number, of course, but will it have the same IP?
ARGGH... I do have one choice I see... I could select My Computer Does Not Connect to the Internet... but then would I be able to set it up later?
ARRRGGGH. I have a headache.
******later********
Well, I looked at the main menu on the desktop mac. Under 'Go', under 'Utilities', under 'System', under 'Profiler', under 'Network', under 'Locations', I found 'Built in Ethernet' which has a ton of numbers for various things. It says the configuration method is DHCP, which was the default on the laptop. I may try again tomorrow and see if I have the option of manually putting in these numbers (and hope I can figure out which of them are specific to the computer rather than the ISP & how to find the numbers that belong to 007).
